This would be the best boss in the entire game but his dagger attack alone drops him down to being the worst boss in the game. (2024)

>best boss in the entire game
That would be CHADkard

which dagger attack are you talking about?

Honestly that one three hit punish that ends with the staff thrusting into the ground is more annoying

Honestly even after beating the game I still think Margit is the dumbest boss. He was clearly overtuned at the last minute because the developers were worried players would just bumrush Stormveil and not try to explore at all. A valid concern but they went about it the wrong way.

I can parry nearly every move Malenia has consistently but Morgott? I'll be lucky if I land one parry on him the entire fight and if it does happen it's basically a fluke. Why the frick is this?

>Why does the boss have a punish for when I try to ride his nuts and spam R1 like Dark Souls 1 bosses?!?!
Margit is a spacing tutorial. If you think you can stay up in his sh*t and rolly polly your way to a W, you'd better be overleveled as sh*t because otherwise he WILL have more stamina than you and he will keep attacking through "your window".

The problem aren't quick attacks but how delayed the fricking roll is. 100+ms of roll delay is moronic and all because of using the same button for different actions.

Margit gud.

Margit is the best designed boss in all of souls. The definition of tough but fair. He introduces all the aspects of boss fighting for the rest of the game while still being really accessible with big gaps between moves to let the player learn.

waterfowl exists to instantly delete you on a blind fight
thats the whole purpose, you die the first time you fight her

Godrick is the only boss that is actually fun

Bloodborne and Sekiro are far better games because the difficulty of those games don't need an internet defence force of coping losers. Elden Ring bosses all read your inputs and punish you with an intentional design of the developers laughing because you thought it was safe. It becomes a matter of manipulating the AI or worse, a damage race where you take inorganic opportunities that look like sh*t when you watch yourself play. The flow of the game sucks ass because it's so concerned in trying to GOTCHA the player so fricking much. Doing a no-hit of Malenia showed me the most egregious example of this when this c**t does multiple waterfowls and feints with a hyper armor combo based on your positioning after her kicks and dodge slash. It's insulting. Doing it again with a Bloodflame Blade Nagakiba where I'm the one frame trapping the frick out of her with one-handed swings just before her attacks come out and delaying it as necessary shows how much it all falls apart. It looked and felt boring.

Elden Ring suffers a lot from "a touch too much" in many areas, boss design especially like you said. All bosses have that one thing to them that sets them from good to horrible.

>he failed the tutorial
come on man

The game truly is font loaded with good content, it's wild how hard it falls off after Leyendell or whatever the capital is called. The legacy dungeons are all great, with some of the best level design from has to date, but the open world feels superfluous and this is the only from game I've played where I'm not excited to fight the bosses (barring a few). I'm sure the DLC will be great, and maybe I'm just burnt out on the soul's formula, but I really hope from moves in a new direction going forward. Sekiro and Bloodborne are a breath of fresh air, and elden ring just feels like a step back from that.

>mini bosses more harder than main bosses
seriously, frick that guy standing outside the chapel of the deathrot guy

My biggest gripe with Margit as a boss is that he is unable to fall out of the arena, the fight would be 10x better this way (and it would be fun to if he drops his lines in reverb after falling out of the arena).

yeah he's really unfun to fight. he never stops attacking, I wish bosses had a stamina bar too.

never played elden ring, assume it's got the sh*t where boss attacks feel like their attacks' spacing and timing is precisely tuned around your roll distance and timing which takes me right out of it like a developer is slapping me on the hand saying "gotcha!", sekiro was still good because you can basically steamroll enemies by doing all the right stuff, and bloodborne the gotcha-rot hadn't fully set in yet, basically just ludwig with his phase 2 attacks which you wont notice much outside of low level runs and of course, orphan is a bit gotcha-y but at least he's flailing around so much it feels a bit natural

Do we really need 60 Vigor for the DLC?

fact of the matter is that at least half of ER's bosses and enemies were leftovers from Bloodborne where their frenzied attack patterns actually made sense

uchingata, moonveil or meteoric ore? katana bros, help me out here.

I'm glad someone else agrees that the boss design only get worse. Margit with the starting toolkit is a more engaging fight than Radagon with your fextralife build

i hated mohg the most, his moveset was fine but all the moronic fire sh*t all over the arena that would also inflict bleed for whatever reason really ruined it. Overall, most of the bosses have way too much emphasis put on flashy effects and anime tier bullsh*t, doubt the dlc will be much better, its usually where from cranks it up to 11

>decaying ekyzkes whatever
what were they thinking

Every fight in Elden Ring is cheesy bullsh*t so I simply cheese every enemy back. It feels like the correct way to play anyway.

are things like havel even a thing in this game?

Ok, Jerma, get filtered by the first fricking boss, lol, fricking dipsh*t

Margit is pathetically easy. He just punishes players who bullheadedly insist on going right up against him and rolling over and over.
Even if you suck at the game, if you're a coward enough to run away from him repeatedly. You basically get a free win.

Easily one of the best fights in the game. I feel like I cheated myself of a proper challenge with his second encounter because I'd unintentionally overleveled myself before facing him. Brilliant design, makes me think of Sekiro where it's insanely frustrating until it clicks and then suddenly it is fun every time

How are people mastering fights like Margit? I beat him before I know how to fight him properly. Do you have saves on PC you can reload to fight him 20 times?
>I took an unfair hit it’s over!
You can get 5-6 estus before you fight this guy if you explore Limgrave first. You’re allowed to make a lot of mistakes.

Oh, and while I'm at it, Father Ariandel should have had a 2nd phase if you kill Friday first.